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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:48 pm 
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hey have a toyota surf 2.4TD,since got it have had mtr reco'd,diesel pump and harmonic balancer..now the auto transmission is playing up!
from what iv read every where it could be shift solenoids,but i have takin it to a auto transmission speacialist,he scanned the ecu and no codes..but in saying that the OD light flashes so there has to be a code somewhere,he said he deals with them all the time and it should bring up a code or its a ecu problem.iv swaped ecu's with a working fine 1 and didnt fix the issue..now,what it does..

when take off from a stoped position in D, it takes off in 3rd,so it doesnt/wont shift back to 1st..so i found away around it,i have to either put it in N then fastly down to 1st every time i take off,and then it miss's 2nd and goes to 3rd..been driving it like that for awhile now(5 mnths!!),and its starting to get anoying to say the least!!!!..it plays up 99% of the time,but then just the other day it fixed its self,worked fine for 2 days in a row(apart from if stoped on a hill),even went on beach no probs..then on way home stoped at servo to pump tyres up,then soon as i started it played up again!!!..

i no how to get the ecu error codes to flash and theres no codes says normal..but i read somewhere about getiing the auto codes to flash up by conecting W & E1 and counting the OD lite..the trouble im having is it says to use a SST something(multi meter i think lol) so i cant get the codes,iv tryed conecting the 2 with paper clip like ecu codes but dont work...

anyway just wondering if any1 else has had the problem n no's what it could be as iv spent way to much rebuilding mtr etc and the mechanic wants another 2500 to put a low k import gearbox in it..it almost seems like a loose wire or something that randomly makes it play up...any help/info would be great..

yes i have searched but from what iv read its usually either plays up all the time or not at all when it comes to soleniods,thats where my problem is...

im not on here very often,so sorry for slow responses etc but il reply back as soon as i can,cheers

sorry if i have put this in the wrong section.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:55 pm 
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It could be a mechanical fault with the solenoid, find out which pins are your two solenoids wires on the case connector, then energize them manually by putting 12 volts to them, you should be able to hear a click once they are energized


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:30 am 
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[quote="brickr34"]It could be a mechanical fault with the solenoid, find out which pins are your two solenoids wires on the case connector, then energize them manually by putting 12 volts to them, you should be able to hear a click once they are energized[/quote]


k,thanx... i have taken it to another auto transmission specialist to get a 2nd opinion,i mentioned this test and he said he no's about it and if his scan tool doesnt pick anything up he Will try it,least then Will no if it solenoid related as he said it could be any number of things but hes dealt with alot of surfs..will keep every1 updated..cheers


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:58 am 
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Another test to try is going through the gears manually, I.E shift into first for take off then up through the gears

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:04 pm 
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Have you seen this thread?

http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/showthread.php?t=11557


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:32 am 
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all sorted, it was # 1&2 shift solenoids..$540 with auto service/oil etc..goes much better now..cheers guys


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:25 pm 
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Hi all,
I thought I might add to this thread as I've started getting intermittent symptoms like the OP over the last few months. Only last week did I start getting the infamous code 62 fault come up. I took the plunge and ordered a set of solenoids from eBay as mentioned in another thread.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/UPDATED-DESI ... _830wt_689

Anyway, today they arrived from the states after about a week and I changed them out straight away after work. The new solenoids are much smaller but everything fits perfectly. Took me about 2 hours to change them in my driveway. I didn't remove the turbo dump pipe which runs all the ways under the transmission pan which was a pain though. I simply dropped the pan onto the exhaust which gave about 50mm of clearance. I had to first drop the front prop shaft off the front diff though, leaving the rear of the prop shaft connected, to allow me access to the gearbox pan bolts along the right side. It was a tight squeeze getting my fingers in to the small 50mm gap but I got all three solenoids replaced with no real dramas. Two of the solenoids are accessed from the left side and the third solenoid from left rear of the tranny.

All up, cost me just over 200 bucks including 4litres of ATF and some new sealant for the pan. Took my surf for test drive and everything seem okay so far. Gear changes are spot-on and the torque converter lockup was working as it should at around 80km/h. This is for a KZN130 surf too but can only assume that he solenoids are identical in the LN130 surfs.

Hope that helps.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:24 pm 
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Hi had the same issue on the 130kzn, replaced with these and all good. Cruising at 100kph@2300rpm now. Apparently all the old solenoids are still working when tested on the battery I am suspecting the o-ring are leaking instead.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/97420K-Solen ... 1e5bf129a5

...plus the autotran service kit for $40. About $300 all up to fix by yourself


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